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~~~ How to get the performance numbers out of the inverters for  display ~~~
Inquiry -

10/15/2007

 Hi,

  I just saw your website displaying your solar energy savings on-line.
  I recently installed a 10KW home system with three SunPower inverters.
  Can you advise me how I can get the inverter's info into my computer system as you have done?

Thanks for the fascinating website,
 T.F.


Reply -

10/20/2007

Here's what you will need in order to monitor your system:

Software:  GT-View (free from Xantrex --   http://www.xantrex.com )

( Even though you and I both have the SunPower Inverters, that is just a name-branding operation.  I visited a neighbor a couple of doors down from me who also has solar and his inverters had "GE" plastered all over them, but they were exactly the same as mine!  So, what's in a name these days?  Nothing.  SunPower and GE were too lazy to develop their own devices.  The Xantrex software will work with ANY of them. )

Hardware:

    * A  PC (or laptop) with as many COM ports or USB ports as you have inverters.  (Or if you're short on USB ports, you can get an USB extender hub for more plug-in capability.)

(There is an RS-232C connector in each inverter and the data that gets passed out of that port is specific to that inverter.  If you set up the viewer with SYSTEM TOTALS showing and have the RJ-45 bus interconnection in-place, then the sum of all the watt-hours generated by all the inverters will be common data that will appear at each RS-232C port.  However, the DC volts, DC amps, AC volts, Frequency, and Output Watts (peak and cummulative) will still be reflective of that specific inverter.)

    * The same number of null-modem DB-9 cables (male at one end, female at other end)  with sufficient length to go from each inverter to your PC / laptop,

-- or --

    *  USB-to-RS232C converter cables (Some come with driver software, or you may have to download a driver from a website.  I had to do it using website download.  A source for these cables and driver is http://www.goldxproducts.com/product/show-product.asp?pid=GXMU-1200 )

    * (Number of Inverters) - 1 = number of RJ-45 interconnect bus cables so that you can gather SYSTEM TOTAL data across all your inverters.  Example:  I have 3 inverters so I needed just 2 cables.  The inverters each come with a bus terminator plug, so those are already available and you won't need to buy any.  (These cables can be purchased at STAPLES, Office Depot, etc.)

At this point, you have sufficient connectivity to view the performance data from your PC monitor.  If you want to make a webpage like I did, you need to read the next section.

Internet Connection:

    * If you want to make your performance web page a 24/7 dynamic thing like mine is, then it is suggested that you have a high-speed Internet connection that is always "on" (such as DSL or cable modem).  I would NOT recommend a dial-up arrangement because of the update frequency.  The GT-View software comes with an integrated FTP program that will upload your performance data screen(s) to your web server as often as you choose (I do my updates every 150 seconds or so via FTP, but I do the auto-refresh of the web page by browser command that is around  60 seconds.)

    * The things being uploaded via FTP on a repeating basis are the *.png "screen captures" of the performance screens for each inverter.  These are snap-shot, static images.  Whatever values were displayed are what is captured just prior to their being uploaded to the server.  (This explains why the arithmetic usually doesn't look right when you add the three inverters outputs to get the system total output!)

    * Of course, if you don't have a web host service, you have no place to FTP a webpage with the performance data.  That will be another matter to resolve, not difficult by any means.  If you know someone who has some available webspace, you might be able to use that space for free or for a slight rental charge...  Since you have a business website, you could do like I did and create a separate directory to which you point all your solar updates and in which you hold your index.html (Solar Home page).  Your link would look similar to mine, the difference being the domain name, of course: http://www.h-and-m-analytical.com/solar/index.html

So, basically, you're looking at a minimal dedicated PC, with high-speed Internet connection, several cables to connect your inverters (which cost me about $30 each as they were the USB-to-RS232C type), a couple of Cat5 RJ-45 interconnect cables for the inverter-to-inverter data gathering, and the FREE software from Xantrex, and possibly your serial communications conversion driver which most likely would also be FREE.  I would say that you could do the whole thing for under $1,000.

That is basically all there is to it.  Once all the software and drivers are installed, it is just a matter of opening the Xantrex GT-View application and setting up the application to output the information that your inverters are making available.  Oh, one other thing:  As you have 3 inverters, there will need to be 3 "instances" of the GT-View application running simultaneously.  Each "instance" is tied to one of the COM ports for the particular inverter connected to that port.  That is why you see 3 "meter panel" (performance data screen) images on my website.

The inverters' daily data will be logged to a file on your PC.  The logged data is appended to the end of this file each successive day so you can get a fairly substantial amount of information recorded that way.  On the application set-up for the Xantrex GT-View, you set the time of day when you want the logged data to be stored.  I have chosen 10:00 PM for mine.  In the summertime, the systems will have shut-down and stopped producing power by then, in the winter it would happen sooner, but I just set it and forget it.

I hope that you will find this information useful and that you'll be able to get your system information out to see it in the full light of day!

Have a nice weekend,

W.H.